Wednesday, May 18, 2005

Mishlove and Keleman - on the body/Soma and spirit

On Thinking Allowed [Click for full article]

Recently Richard Otto and I exchanged a couple of emails on the importance of body consciousness. The theme was that neither the denial of the material world (per pop-Vedantins) nor denial of the realms of Spirit (per pop-Scientism) is right - If we understand modern day Spirituality (for instance Sri Aurobindo) it is honoring both.

So read this interview with Stan Keleman by J Mishlove.KELEMAN: Well, in the sense that we should affirm that we are, all of us, a living matrix -- that the great gift of life to us is an embodied existence. And the perception of yourself, not as a mind that's capable of objectifying people, but of empathizing with people -- that we live in one world, and that we are all connected, and our problems are everybody's problems. So that is a felt perception that comes about through many of these exercises. It also makes us feel that we are a process seeking to deal with our life problems and share our solutions with others. People who work on themselves and feel themselves and overcome some of their own inhibited feeling about themselves, and find ways to express their life, are more in a position to love and to be involved with others, and to try to make the place that we live a more habitable place. I say in one of my books that that person who is capable and willing to be committed to their life feeling, I find it very hard to believe that that person can be a deliberate killer or a destroyer of life. I think that that doesn't happen -- that the sense of empathy with what is living is too strong of a message for them to be. And I think that's clear in, say, the old primitive tribes, in which they recognized that they had to eat other animals in order to live -- I mean, animals like themselves. They had elaborate rituals to greet the animal that they were going to slaughter, to make a ritual for them to pass from this life into the next life, and hoping that they could come back to this life.

MISHLOVE: Because they felt connected.

KELEMAN: They felt connected to the life. So that kind of perception, I think, is a loving perception, and I think does offer a hope based upon an emotional experience, rather than only a thinking experience.

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